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JDJ Exclusive: How Long Can BEA Survive Against IBM?
Gartner Report Due Out This Month

The annual Gartner Research Report analyzing the application server market share among leading vendors is expected to be out this month.

According to the Gartner Report published last May, in 2002 IBM pulled ahead of BEA Systems for the first time and gained leadership of the J2EE application server market by walking away with a 37% market share; BEA dropped to second place with 29% of the market. The year before, in 2001, Gartner reported that BEA had 34% of the market share, with IBM close behind at 31%.

Recently, application server vendors have been extending their products to offer an application platform suite: a modern end-to-end platform for business applications. On the way, they are leaving behind the old standards and technologies. BEA Systems has rewritten BEA WebLogic Integration to compete with leading integration specialists. Its key differentiating premise is the convergence of development and integration.

 

Having said that, when Gartner completes the tabulation of 2003 numbers and publishes their annual report, it may not be surprising to see IBM opening the gap further with WebSphere against BEA's WebLogic Application Server Platform in global market share.

This year's Gartner Report may show that roughly 25% of BEA's business depends on their partnership with HP, and roughly 12% on Sun-based installations.

Oracle has a very strong position with their database installations and should be taken seriously as a viable competitor, which should help them gain market share in the J2EE application server markets. Fujitsu Siemens Computers' (FSC) endorsement of Oracle Application Server 10g gives Oracle a strong partner for its application platform suite. Oracle will also benefit from FSC's mainframe integration technology. The latest version of Oracle's application platform suite (APS) has many new features beyond its much-advertised readiness for grid computing. "But enterprises should not rush any evaluation," according to Gartner.

JBoss uses its technical and business innovation in the J2EE application server market to take on the software industry giants. (see JDJ's April interview with David Skok).

Back to the two dominant players of the application server market: after currency calculations are worked into the 2003 market share estimates, IBM may further solidify its leadership position against BEA with a couple of additional points in gains. If BEA's 2003 numbers, published in their annual financials are normalized against the currency effect, their position could look even worse against IBM and may even look negative. Last year, BEA's $1 billion sales mark was greatly helped by the impact of the international currency translations of their financials. BEA Systems filed their annual report on April 15, 2004. IBM's market cap as of April 2004 was roughly $150 billion vs. BEA at around $5 billion.

Another caution that needs to be taken into consideration while analyzing market share is that this information is extracted from the companies' financial reports and determined as their actual application-server sales. There may not be a perfect way to know market share shifts other than what they provide.

Both IBM and BEA are doing a healthy amount of business in the Java space. In 2003 many solution provider partners bet on both companies by partnering with both until they saw signs of a clear leader arising.

In 2002, IBM also landed the No. 1 position in the portal space with 30.8% of the market, with BEA a distant second with 8% and Oracle third with 3.7% as well as dominating in message-oriented middleware with a whopping 80.8% of the market, according to Gartner. Sun's Sun ONE and TIBCO's middleware had 4.9% and 4.8% of market share.

The 2003 Gartner data is expected to be out by the time you read this article. Even if BEA closes the gap with IBM in the application server market share and gains back its leadership position, they will continue to be challenged by IBM, although in the short term this would eliminate any concerns to be flagged by Wall Street. On the other hand, if IBM continues to take market share from BEA, the survival odds may very well be against them in the long run, while competing with a Big Blue gorilla 30 times their size!

We will have an exclusive interview with Joanne Correia, vice president and research director at Gartner Group, analyzing this year's report, in our next issue. We will also interview others for their feedback on that.

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YOUR FEEDBACK
krishnan wrote: After having used,supported several app servers, i def think BEA weblogic is a much better product than any of them in terms of its simplicity, smooth transition from version to version, compliance to J2EE etc and yet its not able to gain market share. IBM has built a strong client base over 20 to 30 yrs which BEA definitely doesnt have. Also IBM has a several revenue streams - networking, hardware, services etc which can additional revenue to app server division and unfortunately BEA doesnt have anthing like that. Its a company solely built on one product - BEA Weblogic server. I am not sure what will happen eventually, but i do believe a good product like weblogic will not go away. Good example is Linux.They could probably have alliance with big players from different sectors of IT industry and virutally look bigger. All the Best to BEA.
Satya wrote: I am very positive BEA will give tough competetion to IBM, and I wish so too. IBM's tendency towards Java and related technologies already shows monopolistic behavior. This is a grave danger to the industry; in fact, their products are not as good as many of their competetors. Why should they take the lead? For example, WSAD is not even closer to Borland JBuilder as IDE. I don't agree that every one should join the Eclipse to succeed in the market. We need competitive and variety products in the market. I urge the professionals not to support monopolistic tendencies of any company; as professionals we should support professionally competitive products. Look back to the past where Microsoft's monopoly is still making us suffer. I don't want it to happen with IBM or any other company. The worst thing that could happen to Java is IBM taking over control of it.
Boez wrote: Gee, Andy, I guess you haven't noticed what has been happening to Sun in the last three years with respect to their server sales. Whose ass is really being kicked here? IBM has far more ISV partners than BEA and JBoss. Do your homework before you post such gibberish.
Andy wrote: Let''s not forget that IBM, despite its size, has had its ass kicked many times. Lets not forget, Microsoft and that story, or even Sun totally destroying them in the small to mid-range server market. So lets face it - who would trust any IBM "strategic" moves? IBM should be closely compared to a retarded gorilla. As for IBM WS being so great - how come ISV vendors almost always embed BEA WLS in their products and not IBM or even JBoss? BEA has over 2,400 ISV partners. IBM, I suspect, has next to none.
Roger Lee wrote: Think most of WS "sales" are shelfware. I''m at a huge IBM site where WS is supposedly the standard. It''s hardly used anywhere in the org. The only places are with third party products that required WS as its App. Server; these are running old versions 3.5/4.0. We have just tried to convert a J2EE Application from WLS 8.1 to WS 5.0. Even with the help of IBM "Consultants" they couldn''t get it working. It''s now going live with WLS 8.1 sp2. My impression WS is extremely poor product, it''s so cumbersome to build and deploy a J2EE Application.
Ingrid Elima wrote: Please...Give us a break! It´s THEIR money. How about some tecnical analisys showing us which product is better ? Sorry, WLS 8.1 kicks Webshere5 ass.
BBT90s wrote: It''s quite clear what is happening. IBM couldn''t take the lead from a tech perspective so they took the marketing route instead. Nothing wrong with that, it''s a free world! There are estimates that 50-75% of Websheres licenses are shelf-ware. So is it relevant speaking about market share from a license point of view, No of course it isn''t. But one have to admit that IBM made a good job of promoting the few customers that have deployed applications on Websphere. This shouldn''t be to hard since they probably got a larger marketing budget than BEA''s revenue. Gartner uses information they get from IBM and BEA and a little research of their own to create their reports. This isn''t rocket sience you know. By giving them the "right" info it''s easy to "influence" the report. Just my 2c
John Murray wrote: Most of the shops that I see running Websphere or OAS are doing so becasue they were given the product free based on past partnerships. Whenever I''ve seen a shop given the freedom to choose their J2EE container based on merits, they almost always choose Weblogic. The product is superior and that will always guarantee their survial, but you know that a superior product doesn''t always translate into marketshare. Just look at your desktop OS!
Chris Wild wrote: I have delivered applications on weblogic 8.1, Oracle 9.0.3 and Websphere 5.1 and Weblogic was by far the best experience for me. Everything just works the way it should and the documentation is pretty good. Oracle was a pain to live with, the documentation was all over the place and I got the feeling that the product had been glued together from a bunch of separate technologies, by a bunch of separate teams, and no-one talked to each other. Websphere + WSAD was very productive, but the learning curve was quite steep - Getting CMP working was a MAJOR pain. I really hope BEA can hold out, but to be honest I''m backing IBM. - At the end of the day the choice of app servers is a management decision, and in the long term I think it''s going to be far easier for your average manager to justify the decision to go with IBM.
Gabor Moos wrote: The list of issues I had with Oracle''s application server are to long to mention. The most offending issue was that the Enterprise Manager would only function till I restarted the machine. It would not start anymore, and the only option I had was to reinstall it. Did I mention that reinstalling Oracle stuff is a major pain in the ... itself? I would happily choose Websphere over Oracle 9i AS R2 any day, without thinking twice. But I am not a big fan of Websphere either, to be honest. I just love working with Weblogic, however. :)
Carlos Saavedra wrote: Actually, I believe that BEA should look out for Oracle who has made moves to take over BEAs market share. BTW, anyone using Oracle''s lastest AppServer? My company is evaluating the posibility of partnering with Oracle and dropping BEA. CarlosSA
Matt Filios wrote: WebLogic is a solid product, and has a fantastic customer base. They have done a good job of evolving their offerings as the commoditization to some degree of the application server has occurred. WebLogic is BEA''s mothership. IBM, on the other hand, has WebSphere as just one of their many product and service offerings. With the partnerships that BEA has with HP and Sun, I would not be surprised to see them acquired somewhere down the road. Either way, WebLogic will continue to be around for many years to come I believe.
Karl Banke wrote: I find it quite perverse to believe that a company has to vanish just because there is one or the other competitor. Without competition in the market place we would still be hacking away on cobol mvs boxes using punchcars (if at all). Even if the competitor is big, there is no reason, you should not excel by improving and reengineering your product..... And I quite like BEA WebLogic, its management console, the productivity and flexibility I get from it and most of the stuff BEA has based on WebLogic. Karl
kikuyo4me wrote: In the yesterday INvestor relation meeting company is cautious abt the corporate spending and license renewal worries them.... I''m going to assume there was some kind of investor relations meeting yesterday, and this poster was privy to what was said in the meeting. I think his post is legit simply because it correlates to my long held beliefs. The two points he mentions: 1) Corporate spending still weak 2) License renewals worry them All point to the same thing, BEA''s value proposition is suspect! If corporate spending is weak, from BEA''s view, even though OTHER technology sectors have shown strength in the same period, that has to lead you to believe that it''s Java/J2EE infrastructure that is weak, not overall technology spending. The renewal license revenue concern just re-enforces this view. If the value proposition of expensive Java/J2EE app servers IS bein...
mybond666 wrote: In the yesterday INvestor relation meeting company is cautious abt the corporate spending and license renewal worries them....
Vlad wrote: It seems there is confusion. Which application server is the best: Weblogic, websphere or Jboss ? I personaly don't know !! The market changed since Jboss Group started its new support strategy, J2ee application are becoming commodities. Application Servers are strategic, therefore just few companies are taking the risk of a migration from Weblogic to Jboss. The title of the article is "How Long Can BEA Survive Against IBM? This title should have been "How long BEA can survive against the open source community sponsored by IBM ? Eclipse is one part of this strategy in order to maximize revenus generated from services and hardware. The reality is that the software market is becoming less valuable compare to other markets. In the meantime, software helps other markets to generate revenu. Eclipse is the key of this strategy and you will be surprise that Jboss and Mysql are welcome ev...
BSA wrote: WebLogic is much better than WebSphere and Weblogic Workshop is a swiss-army's knife for J2EE development that's also much better than Eclipse for J2EE development. However, Eclipse is a great IDE for J2SE and non enterprise-wide developments.
kikuyo4me wrote: If you read that link, there is an implied assumption in it that is incorrect!! Too many people incorrectly assume that ALL of BEA''s revenues are generated by WebLogic. That is simply NOT true. BEA is still selling alot of their legacy transaction processing monitor (TUXEDO). The really problematic thing for the average investor is that BEA has always steadfastly REFUSED to disclose the revenue breakdown between WebLogic and TUXEDO. In fact they''ve gone OUT OF THEIR WAY to hide the actual breakdown. This is usually evident durning earnings CC''s, especially when the ''over 1 million'' deal question comes up. My opinion is that MOST large deals that BEA does are TUXEDO deals. Now I guarantee you Alfred knows exactly what transpires with EVERY million plus deal, (there are typically only 7 to 15 per quarter). 2 CC''s ago, Alfred was touting their million plus deals. An analys...
Scott Kay wrote: Gee I''ll bet IBM spends a lot more money with Gartner Group than BEA.... Consulting in this business is basically legalized extortion. hehehe
Bill Gates wrote: Remember Lotus 1,2,3? Where is it now? Was it better than Excel? How about VisiCalc? Size DOES matter here. IBM is definately in this to win it. They understand the importance of owning this space. BEA is so 5 minutes ago.
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